Uk shibir - 4
Satsang highlights : Uk shibir 4th session 31/3/13
Subject : Man gyey, atma Gnata (Mind Object, Soul Knower)
Mind just gives information like a Radar.Ego gets involved in it by ignorance. Intellect decides is it a good or bad thoughts.
The thoughts which r charged in last life comes but not all thoughts will come. In shibir thoughts will not come about non-veg., liquor. Thoughts of hair cutting will not come to women or to a bald person.
In Gnan the solution against mind thoughts is
1)If mind shows negative about some person, it's showing bcos of past opinion then one needs to say that person is good, he is kind, he is full of compassion.
2)Talk with mind- noted your content, talk something else
3)Change the opinion, sexual thoughts r coming, change opinion that there is no real happiness in it.
4) mind is object (gyay), 'I' am knower
5) do pratikraman or do prayer for its negativity.
Just seen an app in phone, "talking ninja". Whatever v speak negative or positive it repeats same. From this v can understand mind. App repeats instantly while mind is repeating after one life.
Q: how to exactly see functions of mind, intellect, chit & ego?
D: not necessary to see separate. This entire is in antskaran (internal mechanism). No need to see car, tyres, steering, brake etc separate. Just keep separate Car & Driver.
Q: can see gross and subtle but cannt see subtle & subtler ego?
D: until intellect mischiefs are still working it will b diff to see subtler ego. It's better to see intellect mischief, how it's giving unhappiness to others, how it's finding faults in others.
Pshree style of Adjust everywhere
I put on eye mask and ear plugs instead of asking to keep curtains down in all big windows and instead of asking people not to do noise disturbances.
Q: to ask to file 1 to do pratikraman is it not called Doership ?
D: no, you are showing light (knowledge) to file 1 . Suppose a torch is showing right way does it can b termed as Doership of torch?
Pratiti : darshan stage
Jagruti: penance, tap stage.
Suddhupyog : experience stage, Gnan stage
Gnatadrasta : charitra stage
Subject : Man gyey, atma Gnata (Mind Object, Soul Knower)
Mind just gives information like a Radar.Ego gets involved in it by ignorance. Intellect decides is it a good or bad thoughts.
The thoughts which r charged in last life comes but not all thoughts will come. In shibir thoughts will not come about non-veg., liquor. Thoughts of hair cutting will not come to women or to a bald person.
In Gnan the solution against mind thoughts is
1)If mind shows negative about some person, it's showing bcos of past opinion then one needs to say that person is good, he is kind, he is full of compassion.
2)Talk with mind- noted your content, talk something else
3)Change the opinion, sexual thoughts r coming, change opinion that there is no real happiness in it.
4) mind is object (gyay), 'I' am knower
5) do pratikraman or do prayer for its negativity.
Just seen an app in phone, "talking ninja". Whatever v speak negative or positive it repeats same. From this v can understand mind. App repeats instantly while mind is repeating after one life.
Q: how to exactly see functions of mind, intellect, chit & ego?
D: not necessary to see separate. This entire is in antskaran (internal mechanism). No need to see car, tyres, steering, brake etc separate. Just keep separate Car & Driver.
Q: can see gross and subtle but cannt see subtle & subtler ego?
D: until intellect mischiefs are still working it will b diff to see subtler ego. It's better to see intellect mischief, how it's giving unhappiness to others, how it's finding faults in others.
Pshree style of Adjust everywhere
I put on eye mask and ear plugs instead of asking to keep curtains down in all big windows and instead of asking people not to do noise disturbances.
Q: to ask to file 1 to do pratikraman is it not called Doership ?
D: no, you are showing light (knowledge) to file 1 . Suppose a torch is showing right way does it can b termed as Doership of torch?
Pratiti : darshan stage
Jagruti: penance, tap stage.
Suddhupyog : experience stage, Gnan stage
Gnatadrasta : charitra stage
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