Bharuch JJ celebrations 15/11/13 -1

Bharuch JJ celebrations 15/11/13 -1

Aagna Ni importance (How to..... Follow 5 Aagna)

Few highlights:

For following all Aagna, key is to separate first from file 1 and then ask file to follow Aagna.

The more one can see file 1 separate & more one experience of separation, in same way it can see others as separate and their soul separate.

The more we see pure soul, in result we can achieve Samadhi, no Vishay-Kashay.

Whole day we speak Vani of Doership- I have come, I have completed all work, I have to go to satsang- this kind of Vani will not change it will speak like that but we have to keep separate from inside- Chandu has come, Chandu has done etc. In same way for others also we speak Vani of Doership that Maganbhai is doing this, doing wrong etc.

Things will not move without me - biggest ignorance

Things are happening without my presence - biggest knowledge.

To experience this for one day don't hold leash of 5 senses, see how things r happening.

We have got conviction (pratiti) of Self - Suddhatma account is opened.

When we will reach experiential stage of Self - Suddhatma account is complete.

Q: have strong Nischay to follow vyavasthit but every time forgets.

D: what is reqd., make study of Aagna, who is doing, what r evidences coming etc. We have made deep study of relative knowledge so it has become automatic. Just to cook good Jambu how much efforts we have put on and didn't let it go until we mastered it, same way first study deeply how to follow Aagna, then it will b sahaj.

Q: Niruma is saying let ego flow, don't hold it?

D: when v go beyond present in past or future ego is not flowing.

Prejudice: we r bringing past in present and disturb everything

Opinion: we r bringing future in present and disturb everything

What is the beginning of sambhave nikaal? When Chandu gets angry at that time Chandu is in vishambhav and you are knowing it that Chandu has done wrong then You are in Sambhav.